57plymouth
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- Blythewood, SC
My 1991 245 is stock with R12 still in the system. I have several problems that I think all track to one source. This car is my daily driver work vehicle. I'm in it from 7:00 to 3:30 every day. I work in town most days, and in Columbia it gets plenty hot. Working a/c is a must, so I need to fix this.
1: The a/c does not blow cold air when sitting still at traffic lights.
2: When sitting still or driving in heavy stop and go traffic with the A/C on, the car gets hot. I have not let the temp gauge get into the red. It gets hot and almost to the red. If I turn off the a/c it will stabilize at one temp. If I get moving so more air flows through the radiator it stabilizes and cools off. It does not overheat or get above the middle of the range at any time with the a/c off. It does not get out of the middle of the range with the a/c on when it is moving. Only in heavy traffic or sitting still.
3: When the car is moving the a/c works very good and blows nice cold air. I can't complain as long as the car is moving. Sitting still it's hot and sweaty junk.
4: When the car gets hot, it cools down very quickly when I get moving and more air moves through the radiator.
Here's what I've done to address the issues:
1: Bypassed the temp compensator board to eliminate that possible problem.
2: Flushed the radiator core EXTERNALLY with water to dislodge any debris.
3: Tested that the electric fan does in fact work by jumping the two red wires at the fan relay. The fan spins up nicely.
4: Jumped the two wires on the switch on the lower line by the radiator on the a/c system, which DID NOT activate the fan. I may not understand how this switch works though.
5: Checked that the mechanical fan clutch is not siezed. (again the car never runs warm with the a/c off no matter the driving conditions)
Here's my questions:
1: How do I rewire the electric fan circuit so the fan comes on at all times when the a/c is on?
2: The four wires at the relay are two red and two light brown / tan. How do I determine which is the signal wire to activate the relay?
3: The relay in my car appears to be non-original as the pigtail has been spliced in and the four wires on the pigtail are white. Will a standard 4 pin bosch cube relay work to replace the $80 original style relay?
Any help is greatly appreciated. Hopefully I gave enough info to help diagnose.
1: The a/c does not blow cold air when sitting still at traffic lights.
2: When sitting still or driving in heavy stop and go traffic with the A/C on, the car gets hot. I have not let the temp gauge get into the red. It gets hot and almost to the red. If I turn off the a/c it will stabilize at one temp. If I get moving so more air flows through the radiator it stabilizes and cools off. It does not overheat or get above the middle of the range at any time with the a/c off. It does not get out of the middle of the range with the a/c on when it is moving. Only in heavy traffic or sitting still.
3: When the car is moving the a/c works very good and blows nice cold air. I can't complain as long as the car is moving. Sitting still it's hot and sweaty junk.
4: When the car gets hot, it cools down very quickly when I get moving and more air moves through the radiator.
Here's what I've done to address the issues:
1: Bypassed the temp compensator board to eliminate that possible problem.
2: Flushed the radiator core EXTERNALLY with water to dislodge any debris.
3: Tested that the electric fan does in fact work by jumping the two red wires at the fan relay. The fan spins up nicely.
4: Jumped the two wires on the switch on the lower line by the radiator on the a/c system, which DID NOT activate the fan. I may not understand how this switch works though.
5: Checked that the mechanical fan clutch is not siezed. (again the car never runs warm with the a/c off no matter the driving conditions)
Here's my questions:
1: How do I rewire the electric fan circuit so the fan comes on at all times when the a/c is on?
2: The four wires at the relay are two red and two light brown / tan. How do I determine which is the signal wire to activate the relay?
3: The relay in my car appears to be non-original as the pigtail has been spliced in and the four wires on the pigtail are white. Will a standard 4 pin bosch cube relay work to replace the $80 original style relay?
Any help is greatly appreciated. Hopefully I gave enough info to help diagnose.