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static compression for street turbo

SammyG

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I was thinking like 8.5:1 for static before my cam and turbo is taken into account..
and 12.5:1 dynamic afterwards

As for off boost performance; do you think 8.5 will be puttin around, or adequate?

what's the lowest you've gone on a street motor?

using a dynamic compression calculator...only taking into account cam opening/closing, rod length, and dimensions physically machined to 9:1.... im getting 5.84:1 and an effective stroke of 2.3 inches (30% less than actual dimensions)

Im running KG-10

--did I pick a cam that's letting too much charge blow out my engines' a** until higher RPM?


-- will 8.5:1 be comfortable? Will the non-destructive koolaid man make a visit every time I hit the gas... "heyyyyy *BOOOOOSTIIINN*" skkkrrrrrrrrrr----rrrrt *CRUNCH*

thanks and happy 4th. Dont blow your dick off.

edit: I've spent the morning reading, and these are the two most useful pages i've found. https://www.researchgate.net/post/H...ion_engines_achieve_higher_thermal_efficiency
http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=90282
and http://physics.stackexchange.com/qu...ombustion-engines-more-efficient-on-cold-days

so I think actually a compression closer to 9.0 or 9.5 would be for the best. if 50% of my power came on from 2700 to 3200 it doesnt take a genius to think about what the wheels are going to want to do, and very quickly....

also, the higher compression ratio will benefit power production from efficiency alone.--- as anecdotal evidence always leads to... "low end is better with higher CR"...."shes a torque beast with that high CR"... I guess I finally understand where it comes from from a thermodynamic point of view...
 
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Just my .02 worth. The B230FT in my wagon was built to a 9.0:1 spec and I f'ing LOVE it for a daily. Nice easy off-boost power, handles boost like a champ as long as the tune is solid.
 
My engine build in progress, shooting for 9.2:1 static with IPD turn cam, big intercooler and water injection. Up to 15psi with E10. I'm hoping to achieve a very fat torque curve low mid.
 
it definitely sounds like the way to go.... I was worried i would drop out of my pressure ratio range on the turbo.... but anything from 8-15 psi is pretty much golden for me at like 1.7 to 2.3.

so ill prob end up with 9.25.. I decided to compare against my old BMW... it only had 8.5 and it had plenty of get up and go; it was 30% larger.. but still. lol the car weighed as much more atleast.

so uhh yeah.. that's that lol

i want to do water injection, and a 50 or 75 shot of nitrous... but together it's like an additional 1000 bucks.
 
Comparing cr on a volvo to a bmw is like....well no comparison at all. Based on your cam selection I'd guess you are talking about an 8v b230ft. They were 8.7:1 from the factory so not sure why you'd drop it unless you're running alot more boost. Plus a badly done 8.5:1 motor could run alot worse and take less boost than a well done 10:1 engine. Are you touching the combustion chambers? How about the block, tightening up the squish? Flat pistons or dished? Adding nitrous...I hope you've got a strong late block, and transmission, and rear end...
Good you've done lots of reading, keep reading so you don't blow something up.
 
I'm guessing that this is the b18/b20. Personally I like the higher compression, low-ish boost for that off idle grunt. Currently I'm running like 9.5:1 on my b20, boost at ~15psi, idle advance at about 20* and WOT/15psi/5500rpm is like ~12-15* (but this area is going to need some dyno tuning) no det yet, but temps have been pretty low for testing and AFR's holding pretty steady at ~12
 
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